lisa ling is with us and joining us after the break. this is humiliating. stand still so we can get an accurate reading. okay...um...eighteen pounds and a smidge. a smidge? y'know, there's really no need to weigh packages under 70 pounds. with priority mail flat rate boxes from the postal service, if it fits, it ships anywhere in the country for a low flat rate. cool. you know this scale is off by a good 7, 8 pounds. maybe five. priority mail flat rate boxes only from the postal service. a simpler way to ship. >>> welcome back to "the most news in the morning." we're talking to lisa ling about her sister, euna lee. i want to ask you about this. i know that you guys were trying to make things as easy as possible and not complicate things as they were in -- being held in north korea. how did you determine that -- that during the course of these phone calls that it would be in the best interest to come out to speak about it? and also, to try to get former president clinton involved? >> in the nearly five months of captivity, they were only able to make four ca